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Turnip greens ,water,yeast,and sugar.I put all of this into a 5 gal bucket to feed during winter.The alcohol
being seemed to have cleared the symptoms of a cold in a hen I was about to cull and the vitamins from the turnips seemed to stop out the cold completly.might just be a cure for cronic respitory.who knows.
just thought I would post this.

That's a very good tip! I always prefer something natural over antibiotics.

I've heard that a similar thing, Kimchi (a fermented cabbage dish from Korea), is supposed to treat AI too. I think there is something to your remedy. Good job!

Here's a link about Kimchi and AI.
Bye for now,


David

This is my first try at this board. I don't have long tails but want to learn something. David and I have been friends since he took National Poultry News.
This alcohol treatment seems that more chicken people could use it instead of medication.
what porportions of each ingriedent do you use?
Thanks for answering me in advance.
Glenda L Heywood
frizzlebird9@yahoo.com
http://www.gkpet.com
click on pet forum for articles

well the way I did it last year was I would fill it about half way full with turnip leaves and I put about as much water with it to where the leaves where still thick then I put a few turnip roots in it.I left it a couple weeks with the lid sealed and let it ferment than I added the yeast and let it sit a couple of days.Then when I fed it I would leave the liquid in the bucket that way everyday it would stay fresh.But another thing I just found out was that corn and grain products can cause allergies in longtails with onagadori ancestry.so being that I increased their corn intake for winter it appears that my birds may not have really had colds and the reason it could have cleared up was I was feeding them turnips and cut way back on their corn.But somebody should definately test this on some birds that do not have onagadori backgrounds because it makes since for it to work.

I recommend this natural probiotic recipe for your birds once a week all yr round
1 qt of dry crumbles
2 qts of buttermilk or sour milk( by adding 2 tbsp apple cider vinegar to a gallon of milk keep unus3d amt in frig)
1/4 cup of pure unflavored yogurt
this fed two to three tbsp per adult bird wekly is very healthy for them
Do not make more than you can use at time of making.
birds eat wet mash easily
very good for the bird to build their immuno system and build good gut flora
Glenda L Heywood
frizzlebird5@yahoo.com
http://www.gkpet.com
click on pet forum
lots of new articles on all birds and animals
PS David send me the information to post this site yto my board
I had it on but lost it
thanks Glenda

Thanks Glenda. That's good info.

10+ yrs ago when I had emus, another family member gave them rotten green beans. The vet even recommended the probiotic yogurt. That surprised me coming from the vet. They usually want $ for drugs.

Do you know if the dried crumbles in the mix could be substituted with steamed rice? Or should they be the chick medicated crumbles?

You do have a lot of good info on your site! I went there and looked. Something else you may like to list is maybe gardening for fowl? That's a topic that often comes up. Kind of on the same subject as the turnip greens.

Usually I think people want to know about plants that will tolerate poultry scratching about around them. I think that's pretty much a lost cause, but gardening things for them to eat is a great idea.

I had only been purchasing cabbage at the store on sale. My solitary males get some daily added to their custom ration.

Last fall I planted a patch of Nira (garlic chives). I noticed yesterday that they are coming up an inch or two right through the frozen ground now.

I also have some Daikon seeds and plan on planting that when the weather is appropriate. The only thing that concerns me about that is we usually don't have a long cool, but not cold, period before it turns hot. That is why I do not grow my own cabbage. It bolts too soon. Only time will tell if the Daikon will be happy long enough.

The long-tail fowl breeders I know in Japan feed cabbage (regular green cabbage - "kyabetsu"), Daikon (just the leaves), Nira, and Bok Choy. They, "avoid giving them vegetables that have bitter taste or those that discolor when cut."

Here is info I found online about Daikon leaves:

One online source says, "Other dietary requirements increase during moulting [when feathers re-grow], such as the need for certain vitamins such as Vitamin A or its beta carotene precursor. These are particularly important for birds with yellow or red plumage colouration, as these colours are directly produced from this source."

   Daikon radish leaves contain large amounts of beta carotene.

   Also, for every 100 gm of leaves there are:
1400 IU vitamin A
210 mg of calcium
ten times the amount of vitamin C as found in lemon
three times more iron than found in liver and eels
60% more vitamin B1 than pickled black beans
and twice as much vitamin B2 as found in beef.

I'll e-mail you with the forum info.
Thanks!
Bye for now,


David